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Driven Women Burn Out First with Dr. Neema Moore

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In this episode of Clover, I sit down with Dr. Neema Moore—chiropractor, author of Confidence NOW!, and founder of transformative wellness retreats—for a conversation that feels both grounding and expansive.

Dr. Neema’s journey doesn’t follow a straight line. From high school biology teacher to chiropractor to global wellness leader, she shares how one simple idea—choosing happiness—led her to completely pivot her career and build a life centered around healing, confidence, and impact. What stands out most is how much of her path came not from a rigid plan, but from saying yes to what felt aligned… even when it was uncomfortable.

We talk about what she sees every day in high-achieving women: the burnout, the pressure, the “holding it all together” on the outside while their bodies are telling a different story. From chronic stress and exhaustion to the deeper emotional weight women carry, Dr. Neema breaks down how success without self-connection shows up physically—and what we can do about it.

This conversation also goes deeper into:

  •  Why driven women are actually the most at risk for burnout 
  •  The importance of creating space to reconnect with yourself (and why retreats can be so transformative) 
  •  What it really takes to build confidence—and why it only comes after you take the leap 
  •  Letting go of waiting for permission and stepping fully into your own authority 
  •  How to stop minimizing your accomplishments and start owning your story 

Dr. Neema shares powerful insight from her own life and her work with women around the world, including the mindset shifts that help you move from survival mode into alignment, clarity, and confidence.

If you’ve ever felt like you “should” have it all together—but inside you’re questioning everything—this episode is a reminder that you’re not alone… and that the next version of you is on the other side of one brave step forward.

And yes—Beyoncé makes an appearance, because confidence has a soundtrack. 💫

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Erin Geiger:

All right, welcome everybody to the latest episode of clover today we have Dr Nima Moore, I am so excited to have you on everything that you've done, especially around supporting women, has been incredible, so I cannot wait to hear your story. So welcome to the show.

Unknown:

Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for the opportunity. I really appreciate it.

Erin Geiger:

Aaron, oh my gosh, for sure. And at this I'm so grateful that you took the time, because you are involved in so many incredible, wonderful, important things. Thank you so I always start out with asking people about their their story, you know, because we see, like, what's on LinkedIn, and you know what people talk about, but it's like, what, how did you get to where you are today, you know? And kind of like, what kind of personal and professional things that you go through to get to where you are today. A lot of people, their trajectory is not a straight line. I would love to hear more about that.

Unknown:

Yeah, so I don't know where to start. I really, literally have so my hand and so many things. Sometimes I feel like that's a good thing. Sometimes, I don't know if it's a crazy thing. But, you know, I started off, my first degree is in biology, secondary education. So I was a teacher before I was anything else licensed in the state of Virginia. So I taught high school. My first degree, like I said, is in biology, secondary education. So I was a teacher first. I come from a long line of teachers. My mother is a teacher. I have twins that are going to school to be teachers. So education is something that's always been very, very important to myself and my family, and I just knew I wanted to do something in the health and wellness field, and searched and searched and talked to one of my friends, whose sister was a chiropractor. I didn't even know what she was. All that I kept hearing was that she was really happy. That's what kept bringing in my ears, that she was really happy and that she loved what she did, and that she had the same background as me, that she had majored in biology. So I called my friend one day and said, you know, what's that thing your sister does again? What is it called? And she's like, Oh, she's a chiropractor in DC. She happened to be a chiropractor in DC. And I said, I think I want to do that. And honestly, it had to do with the first thing was that she was happy. She was happy. She loved what she was doing, and that's what led me to becoming a chiropractor and leaving the teaching profession and just loving the idea of that the body can heal itself, and that you can, you know, the body can heal itself, and chiropractic can aid in your wellness journey. And healing comes from the inside out. So I went to chiropractic school and decided to leave the profession. Visited, was knocked off my feet by some of the philosophy that they were talking about when it came to the body, when it came to life. And decided to leave the teaching profession and go all in to chiropractic in this great state of Iowa. And so I went to the prestigious college of Palmer, College of Chiropractic. It's the first college that ever was created to talk about to teach chiropractic. And I went there and and then I opened up my own practice after I graduated, and that started my journey on seeing different people coming into the office, specifically women feeling tired, feeling defeated. And I really wanted to try to start creating spaces for them to thrive and feel confident, which led me then to creating events and now into luxury wellness retreats that are nationally and internationally.

Erin Geiger:

Yeah, that's incredible. And so starting with as a high school, first of all, oh my gosh. High school really like that.

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I was so young at the time that they would mistake me for a student off so often. So that was hard coming out of fresh, out of college, straight too. But I love, I love children, and I love high schoolers and teenagers. I really do,

Erin Geiger:

yeah, well, I have two right now. So, no, I love that. And like and then they were doing biology. So it's almost like you, you were kind of starting in that realm, right? Of like, you're in of service, you're helping others, and, you know, biology, and then you kind of morphed into chiropractic. And so what was that? Because there's a lot of people listening that want to do, because that's really a major career shift. What you did, right? And so if we kind of, like think back to that, a lot of people are listening. Especially now, with all the topsy turvy things happening in the world, they're like, maybe a career shift is in the cards for me. Maybe I should be doing what I really want to do. So like, Yeah, can you talk about that for a second? Like, how did you come to that decision, and how did you make the jump, you know, and continue and make it as successful as you have, yeah.

Unknown:

Well, first of all, I still see patients. So I still have a practice. I have a practice in Gainesville, Virginia, as well as Woodbridge, Virginia, so I still see patients part time. But you know what happened? I was in my office, my first office, and I said I did not want to die on the table. So if there's any chiropractors out there listening, you all know, or just anyone who comes from the background and learning that people stay in that one job until they retire. A lot of our parents did that. They stayed in one job in one profession until they retired. And then, you know, just retired or passed away. And I just a lot of chiropractors. We love what we do so much. We're so passionate about it that we just stay in that job, and then, pretty much, until we just pass away. And I just all, I all I would ever tell my life coach, my coach. I would say I don't want to die on the table in the back, like I just don't want that do my last adjustment. I knew that there was more for me, and there was more to me than just being a chiropractor, and I wanted to get out more into the world to see what was out there, and to really tap into my gifts and talents. And I would encourage any woman to realize that they're not just a one dimensional person and not just a mom or just business owner of even that particular business, or just that career that you got a degree in. You know, I just, you know, believe in following things that make you happy, like I said, and I'm just even realizing like that was the reason I went into chiropractic was really built around the happiness and joy that I heard through that other chiropractor sister, that she was just having the best life ever. And I just believe in women creating that for themselves, because that create women are such a an important part of the community, as well as an important part of our families. We are we raise children. We raise other people's children's we, you know, we play a big part, obviously, in our family and nurturing the people in our family, taking care of loved ones who are sick and ill. We play big parts in the companies that we work for, whether it's someone else or even our own, and we're always giving back and wanting to give back and nurture something. So I think it's important for women to realize that they need to nurture that on the inside of themselves, because it makes them a happier woman. And when we have happier women, then we have happier children, and it just makes the world a better place

Erin Geiger:

100% and so like you, there's so many things.

Unknown:

There's so many things I know

Erin Geiger:

for your career. See, you have chiropractic, you have functional medicine, you have your global health work, your retreats for women. So take me back, like, was there the specific moment, or was there a time when you were like, oh, I want my work to center on women and their well being in this way? Like, was there a turning point for you when you you kind of had that thought,

Unknown:

well, you know, I I'm just a girl's girl. I'm just gonna tell you, um, when I was in high school, I was a cheerleader, so I'm still a cheerleader for women, and I always think back to this moment of in high school, we had to, they wanted us to decorate the boys lockers like, and I just was so like, Why? Why do I have to do this? Like we're just as amazing as they are. And I think some of that, that feistiness when it came to, like women power, that was one of the things. I mean, I literally almost started a whole revolt like we, I don't even think we were gonna it was something that was like tradition, and I was like, we're not doing that anymore. But, um, I think just seeing women come into my office time after time, and seeing that they needed a space, my office became a safe space for women to come and just relax and just to have a moment where they didn't have to stress and they were able to rejuvenate and restore themselves. So it wasn't one single moment, it was more so what I saw over time in my office and with me having such a cheerleader type attitude for women, I just decided I wanted to branch out there and get create spaces for women to have that same experience for longer, extended time. Now I didn't just ever let me say this. This. What I love about life, it's not always that I just thought like, Oh, I'm gonna go to West Africa and be the first woman in chiropractor to go over there. It's just that I honestly, I say yes to a lot of things, right? I say yes, sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad, but I love the idea of new opportunities, and I think women need to be open to where a new opportunity can take you, and that's what has happened over time, is that things have just evolved for me, just saying yes to an opportunity that maybe I might be the first, maybe I might be the only person who looks like me. Maybe I might be, you know, the first chiropractor, or even the first woman. And I have just said, You know what? I'm curious about this. This sounds interesting, and it might be fun along the way, and it might might grow me as a person, and I will say yes to it in that way. So that's how some of these things have evolved. Not that I necessarily set out to do. I didn't set out to do retreats. I wanted to do things for women, like brunches, which I still do, but the retreats things came from me saying yes to my own retreat first.

Erin Geiger:

Yeah, okay, that makes complete sense. And also yes on the locker thing, I would be like, why?

Unknown:

You know, back then in the 80s, that was, that was, it was tradition, and I was like, we're not doing it. We ended up still doing it, but it was reluctant.

Erin Geiger:

I hope they're not doing it anymore. That's we're gonna find out after this episode.

Unknown:

We're gonna, I'm sorry we had to decorate their bedrooms, by the way, but that's a whole nother story. Even worse. Oh, oh, my gosh.

Erin Geiger:

Oh, that's insane. Okay, so the work that you do is so connected to the body and the nervous system. I'm researching this as well, because I was just like, Why do I have anxiety? Why am I feeling these certain ways? Right? And so, you know, there's all this science behind it, which I'm so interested in, and I'm doing my own stuff, so I'm curious, because you work with so many different women, and a lot of them are women in senior leadership, executive level, that sort of a thing. So how are you seeing that show up? Like in these high achieving women, their bodies are telling a different story than what their role is in life. So what, how do you see it show up? And what are you what are you seeing with that?

Unknown:

You know, the women that come into my office, and some of them are really high profile women. Sometimes when I'm out of the country adjusting, I'll be asked to adjust some of the top leaders in the country. And so it just shows up that, you know, women just give so much, and we will run ourselves down. And so a lot of them are just running almost they're almost on burnout. Honestly, they're doing so many things. They're trying to save the world. They're still raising children. And so it shows up in their body as a lot of times back pain. Because back pain, actually, there is a correlation, there is science to back this between stress and lower back pain. So it's showing up as low back pain. It shows up as exhaustion. I just had a patient come in the other day, and she was laying on my table, and I adjusted her. And not only did she just get a very high profile position here in the state of Virginia. She also just lost her daughter all at the same time. And her daughter was very young. She was just 13. She lost her to an illness, so she just came on my when she laid down on the table, and I put like heat on her back, she just slept. And I just let her I just, you know, my heart just went out because she's running up and down the road, and I just said, Oh my gosh, she's so tired, probably emotionally, physically. You know, women in powerful positions, we go through a lot. You know, when you show up in the room, people are questioning who you are, how you look, what your hair looks like, your outfit. And we're not only being judged by women by men, we're being judged by women as well, right? And so it's just a lot. They are carrying so much on their shoulders and still trying to show up like they have it all together. So I see it show up as a lot of muscle tightness, almost like they're wearing a body of armor, literally. So when I'm adjusting them, it feels like I'm pushing on like a floor, like that's how tight it is. You know, lots of times they're showing up with headaches. They're showing up with not sleeping well. And let's not even add menopause, or if they're perimenopausal, onto this right, right? And a lot of times that's when women are becoming the most successful. They're 45 and 50. They're like, rocking it, you know, professionally, because they've done a lot of work already, and now they're kind of in their prime, right? Because people are finally starting to pay attention to them, and they've become more professional. Professional got more degrees or certifications, but yet you still have young children, you still may have aging parents, and maybe you're about to be an empty nester, and your body is going through a whole change, so it just definitely shows up in their health and wellness. Sometimes they don't have time to get to the doctor, so they're, you know, things are getting through the falling through the loopholes of their health and wellness,

Erin Geiger:

yeah, and it's that, it really is. It's like that systemic burnout, and it comes from so many places, like everything that you were saying, I was like, That's me. That's also me, right? So what? So what tends to get underneath that? Like, is it? Is it like a drive to succeed? Like, what it? What is it? What does it come from?

Unknown:

I'm so glad you said that. I don't have them in front of me now, but if anyone is interested, you'll have to just message me on social media. There are 12 stages to burnout, and the number one first stage is that the person is driven. They're very driven. That's like, step stage one. They're like, I'm a driven person. Stage two is like, I'm gonna get this new position, or whatever, I'm going to take on, and I'm just going to be the best at it, and I'm going to take it to new levels, and we're going to do those are the people, if that's you and you're listening, you are the person who's most likely to be burnt out. Number one, you're just like a driven person. And number two, stage two is that you know you're just thinking you're gonna whatever you're taking on, that you are going to just work hard at it, and you don't care if you have to put in long hours for it, and you're going to do whatever it takes to be successful at it, and to make whatever that project is that you're working on successful.

Erin Geiger:

Yeah, I know it's so yeah, that's so true. And it's like, how it's so funny, because I feel like, as women, we go from that like we're super driven. We're doing it, we're going to go for it. But then there's also which, this has come up a lot on on the show where women also kind of wait for permission, almost Yes, like to take up space, right, and to to actually do what they want to do, maybe in a healthier way for them. Because I feel like sometimes when we're so driven, we do the thing, but it's at the detriment to ourselves, our health and other things that fulfill us in life. So obviously, I feel like you stopped waiting. You've stepped fully into your own authority as like, oh my gosh, a doctor, an entrepreneur, an author, which we need to get to your book as well, you know. So it's like, what helped you do that to kind of like, take up that space and to make these moves in your life.

Unknown:

I think that's such a great question to ask at this point of of the world, because, you know, I've always with and I'm saying that because of social media and the fact that there's so many amazing women just rocking it, you know. And people just look this. Everyone's highlight reel is being shown now, versus 20 years ago, we didn't have that. So everyone looks successful, everyone looks beautiful, everyone looks rich, everyone looks like they're, you know, losing weight, you know, and, and so it makes it, you know. I remember thinking that, Oh, it's just the kids I need to worry about with social media, but I think now even more so that sometimes you feel like shrinking and that you don't realize, like, you just need to follow what's in your own heart and find out what lights you up. So one of the things that for me is I have to stay grounded in my alignment with who I am, and I want to encourage the women listening to do the same, is that to get in alignment with who you are and the things that light you up and what's important to you. So for me, that's spending, that's going on retreats, which is why I created the retreats. I created the retreats because I believe women need time to step away now, you can't always do that right, like when I have twins, by the way, when my twins were two and three, could I go on a retreat? No, and I would have probably been worried sick. But I'm saying, as those children get older, and you can find a little more more space, and you have someone to maybe, you know they can pour a bowl of cereal and they become teenagers, and you know that they're going to be going off to school or that they can take care of themselves a little bit more. It's a great time to start thinking about who you are, what you want to do with this next stage in life, and really stepping away, which is why I created the retreats. I started going on retreats so that I could reconnect with myself and other like minded women. And that's when I realized I wanted to do the same for other women as well. So retreats are one of them. I try to take at least one every year where I can just I don't have to worry about dinner. I. I don't have to, you know, worry about what I'm going to be even doing for the day. I can just focus on myself. Sometimes it's for business, sometimes it's just for fun, but it just gives me a moment to step away and I come back so filled up and happy and with clarity and direction. And it's not always about taking retreats just because or stepping away just because of business, it sometimes can be like, What do you want your family to be like moving forward, what is it that you feel like you need to teach your children? What kind of legacy do you want to leave behind? How do you want to help your community? So for me, I'm big on, you know, taking a retreat, but you can do that also in the comfort of your own home. I usually try to take the first 15 minutes of the morning to really either ground myself on a grounding mat, if I really feel like I'm all over the place, or I and also, like reading scriptures. I have, like, a set of books that I that are my go to. So I want to encourage you all to kind of create your own sanctuary that way, when you know poop hits the fan, you have somewhere to go, and it's not foreign to you at that moment, like I don't know what to do, start creating those spaces that feel safe for you. So when things do get crazy and hectic, you have created a safe place to go.

Erin Geiger:

Okay, no, that makes so much sense, and if so, the retreats that you host. So I love it, because they do. They create these spaces for women, right? And they can reconnect with themselves, because you have to do that first, you know, before you can connect to others. So what am I just I just imagine it being such a magical thing that you get to witness like, what shifts Do you see like when women finally they slow down enough to listen, you know, to their bodies, their own intuition.

Unknown:

Like, I love doing this so much. It is a lot of work. I'm going to tell you right now. Retreats are not for the light, for the light hearted, but I love this work so much because I am able to create space for women to heal, for women to build confidence, and for women to rest and restore so we the last retreat I had was Bali 2025 and the women who went, you know, I actually like That trip almost the most, because it's a stretch for them. We took the, what they call is the longest flight in the world. There's a flight from JFK to Singapore that is called the longest flight in the world, and it is 18 hours on the plane, straight to Singapore. So that flight and then we get off in Singapore and go to Bali from there. So that stretched them, like, these are women who are coming on this retreat, and a lot of times women, they don't do retreats, you know, so they're like, I've never left the country without my husband or my family, and I'm going with a bunch of strangers. Everyone thinks I'm crazy. Like, do you know this girl? And I've never been on a plane that long, like, Can I do this? You know, it's, it's going to be really long. So once they were to watch the transformation that happened, and to hear women say, I'm not even the same person that landed here, and that was a bonus. I didn't even I didn't even know they were going to say that, but to hear I'm not the same person that landed here. When I go back to the United States, things are going to change for me. I'm going to make some changes. I'm going to make sure that I'm taking time for myself. I am going to do some things that I want to do that I've been thinking about and and and thinking, Should I? Shouldn't I. I'm going to go ahead and take up space. I'm going to do the things that I really want to do that make me happy, that, you know, encourage legacy, that build legacy, that help me with my health and wellness. So to watch the transformation, especially Bali, was this first time for this trip. I was just, I just wanted to cry, because women come a feeling like, Can I do this? And because they take such a big leap, literally and figuratively, they are like, I'm so much more confident. They leave confident because they've done something they haven't done before, and they really took the time to invest in themselves.

Erin Geiger:

Yeah, I want to cry, and I'm not even

Unknown:

I wasn't even there. Yeah, I try to pick strategic healing spaces so that women not just anywhere like Bali Aruba, we'll be doing Portugal next year. But, you know, I really tried to create a space where one of the ladies said that we came as strangers and we left as sisters, and that's what I want to hear, is that we came as strangers and we left as sisters, and that's just beautiful. I'm getting chills right now just thinking about, you know, being able to create that space for them to work on themselves.

Erin Geiger:

Right? How do you structure these retreats? Like when you go you sit down to, you know, plan your next one. What goes through your mind? What's the intention, you know, how do you structure these, these retreats? How do you go about thinking about it and what you want the women to get out of it? What goes through your mind?

Unknown:

Well, you know, I love my Of course, I love my retreats. But listen, I feel so honored, because I have a participant who said that the trip to Bali was so good she doesn't even know if she can go on another trip, because it was such a high level experience of luxury. And she's like, I don't know if I can go on a trip with anybody else. Sign me up for Aruba, because I think I know it's going to be amazing. I try to structure them with definitely some fun. We're definitely going to see some water, we're definitely going to see some of the sites. But I also structure in rest time. And I honestly think that's one of the faults of many vacations, is that either you don't do anything or people are doing too much. So I really the trips are for, you know, high performing women, or just women who who are just very busy and in business and in corporate, even America. So I really try to plan some time for them to rest, some time for them to, you know, eat great food, to get to the beach. So it's a mixture of actually doing some intentional, facilitated work. So I have them do that kind of in the morning, and then we usually use the afternoons to have fun, maybe go on a yacht, have a champagne something, or just do something fun. So I try not to have their day jammed pack. I think that's really important when people are planning experiences, because these women, they already are doing a lot. They don't want to be tired from the trip, right? Not unless it's from the flight. They just don't they don't want to be tired because they went on the retreat. They want to feel rested and filled up. So it's really a combination. When I think about the intention, I do ask participants and find out what is their intention. Why do they want to come on the retreat? So my retreats are by invitation only. You have to apply. You have to be approved and interviewed by me so that I can create a safe space for the women that attend. That's really important to me. We all have been in those spaces with toxic women, or just spaces that don't feel safe. So I really am very particular about go who goes on the retreat, so that I can so that I know these women will gel together, learn from each other, have fun. So I'm really particular, and then I create the experience. Usually it's because of something I've already done before. So Bali, I had been to Bali already, before Aruba. I've been a number of times. So like, these are places that are very familiar, as well as Portugal. So once I kind of feel like what the vibe is of what I'm trying to create, but it's always the same of giving them time and space to work on themselves and what their next dreams and goals are, and then having some sprinkling some fun in there as well.

Erin Geiger:

I love that. And I love that you take it seriously. It's a responsibility, I do, you know, yeah, and that you actually interview women before you they are accepted onto these trips.

Unknown:

That's actually it's interesting, because each the more I do them, the more serious I take it because I'm like, these women are trusting me, number one, with the large investment of money, and number two, they're trusting me with their soul and their spirit. And I don't take that lightly, so I'm very particular on how the retreat goes. And even as I dive into it even more, it just becomes even more intentional as I start to plan them?

Erin Geiger:

Yeah, I bet, wow, I can imagine just the thought process you go through to plan these it's so important. So if someone listening is a woman in leadership, so she's, outwardly, she seems successful, right? But internally, she's questioning herself, you know, I think a lot of us can relate to that more than people would realize. You might look at a woman be like, she's got it all together, you know, and inside she's, like, shaking like a leaf. Um, what would you want to know about confidence right now? And this kind of leads into your book as well, but it's like, and I guess this kind of, maybe it's a two parter question, because I'm also curious, like, your, so your book is confidence now, so I'd love to hear more about that and but we're all we're all uncomfortable a lot of the time. So you get confidence, you know, through the uncomfortable moments. So when you look back, you know at your earlier career or even your childhood, what experience is like, kind of shaped the way that you understand confidence in the first place. And also, what would you say to that woman who outwardly seems like she has it all, but inwardly is maybe shaken like a leaf in her own Yeah.

Unknown:

So first of all, confidence, honestly, just came very easy for me. But obviously it's something that. Grows and changes over time. I mean, no one feels confident all the time about every single thing that happens in their life. So I've definitely had challenges where I've had to show up, where like people don't look like me, or I'm the first one to go. And I really think that that's how you build confidence, is taking the big leaps and walking, even walking through that door, even though you might be scared or terrified, it's just pushing through that anyway. So when I had my first, my first brunch, you know, this was in 2021, I had, I wanted to put something together. I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. I kind of felt on, kind of on autopilot, like I want to do this, but I don't really feel like I know completely what I'm doing. And I remember just being terrified. And I remember, I remember looking at my son, and my son is always my little cheerleader, because he's like me. He said, I said, I don't know what I'm doing. This is what I this is before I'm about to walk in front of all the ladies and welcome them, I'm like, I don't think I know what I'm really doing. He's like, Mom, it's going to be you're fine, Mom, you've got this. Or he said something encouraging. So I went out, did, did the brunch. They loved it. They had a great experience. Didn't know how they were going to respond to it. Stepping into a whole new world of doing events and the after I left, I just felt so empowered. But I am going to say this, once you do something that's been really hard, that you've thought about, whether it's a degree, whether it's you know, or an event, or something that you really wanted to do, some information that you need to learn about yourself. It will not come until you make the leap. And I felt at that moment that there were things. I thought I had it all together, but until I went, it's kind of like a game, until you go to the next level, you can't unlock the next information. You can't unlock the next confidence, or up level, or build that confidence, because it only will come from you walking through it. And I felt this not just confidence, but like, I learned so much about myself. And like, yes, you can do this. It was just a lot of things that came to me after I did my first event that I did not have before, that just didn't come to me before. And I felt like, I mean, I was praying, I was meditating, I was doing all the things. But it wasn't until I took the leap and really pushed through that event that I my eyes got opened up to even more. So I just want to encourage women that, excuse me, that that next big leap, that's where your next clarity and direction will come, but it will only come if you take the next step.

Erin Geiger:

Yeah, I love that, because it's, it goes back to that, you know, like a body in motion, right? And so it's like, change isn't going to happen if you're just standing still. So it's just, like, taking that one step in front of the other, just, that's the next right step. That's all you've just right?

Unknown:

You asked me a second question. What was the second question?

Erin Geiger:

What'd you say? Well, it's like it was like for women who look outwardly, you know, like they have, they have got it all together, but inside there don't, yes. Did you say to them?

Unknown:

You know, I would say to them to really give yourself more credit number one, and give yourself some grace. And this is in my book, actually, confidence. Now I want you to write down your top 25 things that you are most proud of that have happened in your life. And that's one of the exercises I have people start with, like, let's just start with what you've already accomplished. Because if you're like me, we just sometimes go on to the next thing, and we don't celebrate and we just move on. Okay, yeah, that was no big deal. And I would just say, just keep moving forward. You don't need validation. You don't need to make yourself smaller. You deserve to show up. You deserve to glow up. You deserve to walk in your greatness and to showcase your talents and enjoy your gifts and talents, and that you are enough just as you are. Because a lot of this comes from not feeling like you're enough, but you are enough, just as you are, and to tap into your greatness. And if there's, if there's something that triggers you when you walk into that room, or, you know, maybe it's you know, you feel a shrinkage, I would ask you to go inside and ask yourself, why do you feel that way? Is it because you feel like you're not doing something that you really wanted to do, that you haven't said yes to, or is it that there's something else that just kind of needs to be worked on and that you're not giving yourself enough credit for?

Erin Geiger:

Yeah, that's huge, that inner look. Because I think a lot of us can relate to that. It's just like we accomplish something and then we're on to the next. We don't even think the next. Right? Give ourselves that minute of like, Oh, I did that. No, it's like, whatever. Yeah, I could talk to you forever, by the way. This was so wonderful. This was so fun. If people want to connect with you online, what's the best way? Because I want to, I mean, I'm going to put the links to the yeah in the books, but like, what's the best way to

Unknown:

Sure, social media. I I'm very active on social media. So Dr Nima, DC, and it's just d r, and then my first name, n e e m a, like you see here, N E M, A, D C. So Dr Nima, DC, and that's on all platforms. I'm very heavily active on LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook. So you can find me on all three. Shoot me a message if you heard me here and you want to learn more about the retreats or or the brunches or anything else. Health and wellness for women,

Erin Geiger:

I love it so much. And there's, like, a closing question I ask everybody, because you love music over here, if you could only listen to one music artist for the rest of your life? Who would it be? Oh, it's Beyonce

Unknown:

in concert. I went to Sierra in concert. I just, you know, I feel like, if you, if you're feeling down, you can listen to some good old Beyonce songs and just feel confident and like you can take on the world.

Erin Geiger:

I absolutely agree. I love that. I'm gonna listen to her actually right now. So great. Thank you again for being here. I really do. I'm so grateful. I appreciate it.

Unknown:

Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Bye.