Erin Geiger: 0:10

Welcome everybody to the latest episode of clover. Today we have Brianna Brie Whitehead, I want to pronounce it correctly, Brianna everybody, or Bree Whitehead, so Bri, welcome to the show. We've met a couple of times in different kind of Austin women entrepreneur events, and so thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us today.

Unknown: 0:34

Well, thank you for having me. I'm really excited about this. I listened to a couple of your other episodes, and I just am so excited to hear for the longest time your voice and the smooth jazz voice that you've got in my ears. I love that I

Erin Geiger: 0:51

will never get tired of having my voice being described as smooth jazz.

Unknown: 0:55

I love it. It's great. It's very delightful. I don't mean this in a negative way, because the content is really great, but it's something that can wall you into a sense of calm in a great way.

Erin Geiger: 1:05

Well, that's good. We want people to be calm when they're listening to our tour show and picking up little tidbits. So I always love to jump right into kind of like the origin story. I think that's always so fascinating. My mom would always tell me, everybody has a story, and it's just so incredibly true. I know people are like, nobody cares. Everybody cares. It's just super interesting. So if you wouldn't mind kind of walking us through professionally and personally, kind of like how you started and how you kind of got to where you are today.

Unknown: 1:37

I probably have always been an entrepreneur. So it is, I think I just been just asking this, and I was like, I think my first business was like, when I was like 11 or 12, and it was like babysitting, slash like landscaping in the neighborhood. I have lived all over America. I went to 16 different schools and graduated at 16, so like, you can imagine the condensed version of that I have, like I said, been an entrepreneur. It feels like all my life. That doesn't mean that I haven't worked in some like, under some different companies, but the one I kind of credit with maybe speeding up my entrepreneurialism is red ventures. It's a data company and a sales company. They were like, they're like, one of those companies that had, like, a basketball court and putt putt and bowling alley and subsidized food and like, all this stuff. They were that type of company, but they were really, really tech forward. And two years there was, like, internet marketing University, and so it got a lot of really, really great, like, I mean, everyone there had, like, just kind of an insane pedigree. Like, it was like, NASA Stanford, Yale Harvard, you know, like it was just kind of like wild to witness the people in the room and like, what they had already accomplished. And so I left there a couple of years ago, started my own I was over a decade now, getting old, and then I started a media company in the cannabis space, and exited that at 20 in 2017 and then, like, had already kind of had consultation work on the side for about four or five years. And then, but really wasn't like making it the full time thing. And then right after that, it became really my full time gig, and started just building up my client work from there. A couple of years ago, AI kind of got released on to the public, and I would talk to AI experts about how they were using it, because I was so curious, like, Hey, how are you using it. Let me tell you how I'm using it. And every time I would talk to like, one of these experts, like they were like, they had made it their whole business, their brand, their everything, they would be like, Oh, I don't think I'm using AI, right, if you're using it that way. And so someone finally was like, will you come talk about this? And I I started public speaking on AI specifically a little over a year ago, and it's kind of just really been the focus of my business since then, because think when people hear me talk about what I think about AI and what it can be and what its use case is that they love the idea of what I talk about. So that's, that's the that's the journey.

Erin Geiger: 4:45

Yeah, I love it. And so when you're when you say, you you go to speak to places about, AI, like, what kind of topics do you cover? And do you when you do your consulting work, what specifically are you kind of helping people with in. That realm.

Unknown: 5:01

So when I go and talk it, it can be really like a series of things I have, I have a new series coming out, but the idea is, be human in the age of AI. And what sets us apart in the age of AI is our humanity. I talk about how AI can restore our humanity if we let it. I talk a lot about women being perfectly suited for AI. And talk about AI from like, an ethical and data standpoint as well, and what what we're considering who is impacted what is going to be offered in the future, and maybe a little bit of, like a pinch out or zoom out version of like, the sky isn't falling, Chicken Little, let's, let's make sure that we're talking about this in a realistic way. And as far as my consultation clients, one of my favorite things is building out life operating systems, so going into someone's life and just cleaning up their digital closet and making it super duper easy and allowing them to become the person they want to become. And it's, it's with, with the digital aspect, really at the forefront of all of it.

Erin Geiger: 6:28

Yeah, yeah. So I it's a breath of fresh air to help, to have you talk about how AI can actually amplify humanity, because as a content person and a podcaster and everything people do. Ask me about AI, and I fully embrace it, the responsible use of AI. I know that could I think more more content, people and writers are coming around to it, for sure. But for me, I'm like, this is a great tool, you know, or like, Assistant employee, whatever agent, you know, what have you. So for you kind of coming around, you know, with the humanity of it, instead of replacing is pretty incredible and a breath of fresh air. I'm like, yes. So what kind of made you see it, that that way? And kind of, can you talk a little bit more about that perspective?

Unknown: 7:15

Yeah, I think you, you said it really well. It's the amplification of humans. I think that anybody that really kind of gets in the grind of AI and what it can do and what it can't do would not say AI can replace us. I mean, in this topic is ever evolving and can change, but really you still need a human in the loop for a ton of things, and so we may see like a collapse of roles into a different silo, very similar to how marketing can kind of encompass a ton of things. And so a marketing manager can be a social media strategist, as well as a Content Editor, as well as a video editor like it can kind of start to encompass a lot of things, and it has, because the use of tools has changed right with the introduction of Canva, they didn't really need a full design team every time in like a lot of businesses, and they didn't need with the introduction of social media schedulers, they didn't need someone that was constantly posting. Now, I'm not saying that's a responsible like strategy for marketing, but it is a strategy and can collapse a lot of things while still covering things. And I think that same thing is going to happen with AI where we we may see that, you know, accounting looks a lot different than it has in the past, and we see that you're using your lawyer as the license executor, and you're not maybe hiring them on for the 25 hours of work that you were hiring them on for before. It's just it's just a new shift of how we work. Not that all roles are going to be gone, but it the same with the evolution of the Internet in the late 90s. We people really did think it was going to kill off our ability to connect with others. But, I mean, we're still having dinners and hanging out with our friends and going to the park like It's like things haven't changed the way that. I mean, they have changed and they have not changed, if that makes sense.

Erin Geiger: 9:38

Yeah, I almost look at it as another. I mean, it's another example of innovation expanding, right? So like in late 90s, early, well, maybe early 2000s when mobile was coming about, right? And so I remember having these meetings, these conversations of like, okay, are we going to create content for mobile? Are we going to create ads for you? Know? And at first it was like, nobody is watching this stuff on their phones. It's ridiculous, you know. And then it's like, they obviously that that happened. And then there was like, you know, every quarter we'd have these discussions, and it was like, now's the time. This is not a drill, like you're creating content for mobile, you know, it's, it's almost like, you know, at a larger scale, just the next innovation, you know?

Unknown: 10:21

Yeah, yeah, it's just a different shift. And like I, I think that just collectively, we fear change, right? And so we like and this technology is really unique in the fact that we've lauded knowledge work over the past 45 years in a way that we really like we mocked in person work right? Like there's a blue collar versus white collar is like a really, like, clear distinction and like things will shift, like the need for knowledge work may not be the like, it may not be on the pedestal that it once was, and our currency may shift and what we find valuable, yeah, which is, I think, I think amazing. Honestly, I don't know that we I don't, I don't know that the the world, or the experience that we were living in for the past 40 years was really great for anybody, unless they were super duper at the top right like so I think a world where you equal, you equalize the playing field a little bit. I think it can, can do some really amazing things for how far we jump forward in society and what we value

Erin Geiger: 11:36

right now. I totally agree with that. It is He said that the words I was going to use is kind of leveling the playing field, and it's, you know, and also giving us time to do other things, right, because it's right now a lot of people are using AI for more the rudimentary tasks, and, you know, like, Okay, if it can handle, like, if I create an agent and it can handle XYZ, then it frees up my time, you know, to do more of the strategic, you know, work that needs to be done. But even, you know, elevating those tasks to be more, you know, complex is also going to happen. I mean, I remember, I think it was back in 2022 and we were testing, I think it was chat GBD for SEO content, like pillar based content. And I was like, okay, it needs to include a quote and a statistic and whatever. And so then it spit out this thing, and that gave me this beautiful statistic. I was like, this is incredible. Like, this is amazing. And I was like, great, you know, please cite the source you know that you use. And it was like, You asked her

Unknown: 12:38

statistic, didn't ask if it was gonna be right, right?

Erin Geiger: 12:43

Yeah, I gave you one. This is not real, like, so, you know. So you still get, like, hallucinations and all the things, you know, but it's come a long way, even since then, a few short years later, and it's going to continue to just get better and better and better, you know. And for people who were interested, like, as a writer, with people who are interested in writing but just didn't feel comfortable, felt like they didn't have the chops, if it gives them the confidence to give it a whirl, I'm like, great, you know, have at it. You know, kind of a thing, right?

Unknown: 13:17

Yeah, I agree completely, completely. I think that AI gives I think it can create freedom. I talk about this a lot, that I think AI will restore our humanity if we let it. I think that we probably have been focusing on things that, like just aren't, aren't really genuinely that valuable for humans as a whole, you know? Like, why are we so stressed out sending off emails? You know what I mean? Like, why is that like, when you really think about what that is in the grand scheme of things, like, no one you're like, you hear people say, like, Oh, your nervous system is reacting the same way it would if you were being attacked by a bear, that's insane. That's an insane like concept, when you think about it. And if AI can maybe take away some of that stress, and maybe, like you can create a little bit of space to, you know, stretch, do some yoga, go outside a little bit, because it's sending off your emails for you. I think that creates space for us to maybe get back into our bodies a little bit and, like, actually connect with ourselves and understand what really is valuable and important, like going back to that first response, which is, like, AI really could give you back a lot if you let it and if you build it correctly.

Erin Geiger: 14:44

Yeah, 100% and I, a colleague, was telling me about this webinar that they had listened to recently about how you know for content, specifically how people are using AI and basically create, considering agents as employees. So. So or team members. And so you create an agent for very specific tasks, like, Okay, you are, you know, an agent that is, you know, well, skilled in creating outlines for blah, blah, blah, blah, you know. And then different agent for creating the first draft, and then a different agent for whatever, you know. And you're building out your little team here of AI agents, which I was like, that's incredible, you know, and I've seen, and I need to, you know, dive more into it myself. But people creating these things, and they just take their agents from job to job to job now, like their agents just travel with them, you know, which I think

Unknown: 15:34

that'd be really, really interesting. I I'd love to see, I think that that kind of ownership will be pretty wild. If you were, like, I built this ecosystem, and that's what you're pitching in your job interview, that'd be really, really cool. I wonder if we'd be able to do that. I wonder if society would let us.

Erin Geiger: 15:55

I know. So all these things that come up, it just like blows my mind. You know what the possibilities are. But so I also want to talk about how you were saying you kind of like, help people with their systems, and kind of the impact that you're seeing on women specifically. So, you know, we talked about a little bit you mentioned, like, your nervous system, and kind of coming with that is like, kind of reducing the mental load for people, especially for high capacity women, you know, as they're going through their day, professional and personally. So when you're kind of like helping people with that, what does that look like? And as you're speaking to we can be specific to women, but you can also generalize it, if you want that, what are we all kind of like carrying that you're kind of seeing, like this thematic thing as you're talking to people that you know people aren't really talking about. I'm super curious what you're seeing in your day to day.

Unknown: 16:51

Ai, creates something for women that I don't think is an issue for men. And so, like a couple of things. I don't think the world is kind of set up for women in general, like in a world where you're expected to be at work five days a week from 9am to 5pm Well, it doesn't really consider a mom. It doesn't really consider, you know, I this past like month, like, I my, my cycle was wonky, and it really impacted my scheduling, and that, like, we just don't consider those type of things, because the world wasn't built by us, and one of the really cool things about the the digital systems that I build is the first thing that it asks for women specifically, is like, Hey, where are you at in your cycle? Because that branches off a series of different things. For example, All right, look, you're in luteal phase. Let's add some extra dark chocolate. Let's add some pepitas to your to your meal plan. Let's add that to the grocery list as well. And then, hey, we're probably not going to schedule any hit Pilates this week, but like some yin yoga would be really, really nice, and some gentle walks with friends. Those are things that really align with you during this time. Now, if you're in follicular like, let's get you all the hip Pilates you can handle, you know, and like, do some super big strength training, and it just considers you and like, where you're at at each individual time. Let's probably not load you up with a lot of strategy sessions or meetings during that last week of your cycle. Either it doesn't make a ton of sense, and you're you're not going to feel the same way. Hey, in two weeks, now you're going to want to conquer the world in two weeks. So let's put some strategy sessions together for then let's really like, focused on how we map out your world in different ways, or is that the work we need to get done? Like, okay, we're building, we're building, we're building. That's probably a better space for it then, and that's probably one of the things that, like, women are like, wait, what we can do that? It's like, yeah, we can consider you in all forms of you and how we how we show up for you now, women, I believe, are really amazingly suited for AI, and one of the big reasons why is because women, we are the context holders and AI, that's what It responds best to is when you've given and provided context, right, for example. And don't judge me on this, but I dated this man for seven years, and he called me once from our apartment and said, Hey, where is the ketchup? And I was like, I. Are you serious? You just told me about ketchup. And he was like, Yeah, I don't know where the ketchup is. And I go, Okay, it's in the bathroom. And he goes, No, it's not I go, Oh, okay, so we are thinking critically, like, in you and like, you know where the ketchup was in my house, right? Like, you know exactly where the ketchup was and he had been living in that same place with me for seven years. He should have absolutely understood where the ketchup was, but it's it's really a default, outsourced thing that we, like, we take on, like we are the context holders in so many ways, like we know what everybody's favorite toothpaste is. We know everybody's mom's birthdays. We know when, when piano lessons are. We understand really and hold on stuff. We know why uncle Jimmy can't sit sit next to cousin Jenny anymore, like we've understood their dynamic for quite some time, and so we don't have parties that they're both going to be at, or we don't have, like, there's just so many different versions of the context that we hold, and that mental load is like a million tiny paper cuts throughout our day, right? Is because we have to consider all of these things, and we are the knowledge base for a lot of our family, and imagine a world where all of that knowledge base lives somewhere else, and you get to live beside the people in your home, and not in service of people in your home anymore, but also within work. You can also instead of being the person that knows that it's Jamie's birthday, you like, there's something that's already holding that context and is doing that type of really, like human, human, I wouldn't want to call it emotional labor, because it's not emotional labor, but, like, just human context holding. And in a world where we don't, we don't have to hold that, who do women get to become, and and so I believe that AI one is best suited for us, because it saves us, in a lot of ways, from this kind of silent shouldering that we've done for quite like for generations. We're the we knew that our chicken noodle soup helped before a longevity bro showed up and was like, it's got turmeric and black pepper in it. You're like, I know, I know. That's why the anti I've known about the anti inflammatory properties for 1000s of years. You don't have to tell us, like, that type of stuff, you know, and and I think that it frees us, in a lot of ways, to maybe show up and not shoulder so much responsibility for the people around us, but actually start to innovate, because we're not also considering everything that's happening around us

Erin Geiger: 22:55

as well. Yeah, that's a really beautiful way to look at it, because I personally, there have been times when I have actually felt resentful for that assumption, you know, oh, you know, as a woman, you're gonna know X, Y and Z about this person or this, you know, relation, or this calendar item, you know, and it's just like, gets annoying,

Unknown: 23:15

and you make the best coffee, and you are, yeah, there's a lot of, I mean, I think what you described was a really light version of feminine rage, and I think that maybe we get to evolve into a new a new space where we won't have to be so resentful because it's considered and taken care of in a way that it hasn't been before, And in a world where I think we're not valuing the smartest person in the room, because the smartest person in the room will always be AI, right? Like, what does the new currency look like? It becomes how you're treating and existing within the people around you, which we're already seeing this shift in workspaces, right? But like, I think that this really will define that how you treat people is really going to matter in a way that maybe it didn't completely matter before in like, oh, well, you know, yeah, Derek gets mad and yells a little bit, but he's closing deals X, like, like, left and right. Well, now there's going to be so much support that like, oh, we really only need one person to close all of those deals, and he may close deals, but Derek's not the guy for us, because the ecosystem feels different now. And I think that that it's going to, it's going to really, again, level the playing field for a lot of people, and I think that women will see the biggest benefit from this.

Erin Geiger: 24:44

Yeah, now this is a great way to look at it, because I have a pretty tough no a hole policy. Maybe this will help.

Unknown: 24:55

Yes, I think, I think a lot of us, but like, that's also like. Something new. I think that really, in the past 10 years, we've been like, hey, it's not very fun to be here. And so I think we've kind of changed our stance a little on, like, what's allowed. And I think that ushering in a world of AI, we will also

Erin Geiger: 25:19

have that, yeah, yeah, that's a beautiful thing. So when you're and I, we've talked about this with others like, you see these women, they're operating at such a high level, right? But then for some things, it's almost like they're waiting for permission to take the next step, or to evolve, or to, you know, take on this other thing that they're passionate about. And so in your work, I can only imagine that you probably see this shift, you know, in women, where they're just like, they're not sitting down and waiting to be asked, or, you know, they're taking that step on their own, and the fact that you're kind of training them to build their own systems. Like, what is that like? Like, what? What have you seen shift in those moments where they're finally, like, the light bulb goes on and they're like, wait, I can do this myself, and I can take these steps forward. I don't have to ask permission. I can design my own systems and evolve.

Unknown: 26:17

Yeah, I think, I think my goal is always to put me out of a job, like with my clients. It's like, hey, we'll build to a space where you understand really, like, how much freedom you can have, and then go from there. And it is wild to be like, you know, we start and I'm like, Yeah, you have 100 text messages that you haven't read. Okay, well, hold on one second. Let's, let's go and, like, run a quick prompt and right? Well, it looks like you have three people in there that want to give you, like, $100,000 maybe we, maybe we message them back and they're like, what? And then, like, just like, that alone is like, this freedom of like, Oh, I'm not so inundated by all of this incoming anymore, and it's all about its place. And then now that everything has its place, who do I get to be? And the things that they show up with are really unique to them. I have someone who I adore so much. She she hired me to build her AI system, and in her ai i built her like a nuclear sub of a system. But the thing that she took away that was like, the most valuable to her that she was like, I've been telling everybody, you showed me how to use reminders on my phone, and it is just so helpful. And I'm like, don't tell people that. That's what I do. Please don't like I need to, like, I appreciate that, but, like, don't tell people that that's the thing that I'm doing or freeing you from but, but it's really like, sometimes, like, it can be that simple, that, like, no one saw coming. And it's like, oh, with that alone, I can build so much more.

Erin Geiger: 27:57

What is for the people who are listening, is there just like, two things you can tell them, like, kind of like what you tell your clients when you first meet with them, just like one or two things that they can kind of take away from this episode of like, oh, I should Audit My XYZ. Or this prompt is, like one that you would suggest that could help the most amount of people. I know it's very unique to each person, but is there anything kind of general? Yeah, I do

Unknown: 28:25

like complete bespoke systems. You are right in that. I have one that I really love, and this one does take Okay, so the first thing I would say is start recording your conversations. There's so much context in your conversations that that alone that with the simple automation to get that transcript into your Google Drive, can really change the context of what AI has understanding of and then I have another one that is kind of like a secondary to that. Once you've started kind of dumping a place where your conversations are being held, AI will start to understand the way that you speak. It'll understand your thought process. It'll understand kind of, maybe what you're not saying too. And with all of that information, I did this about two years ago. Was the first time I did it. I had aI audit what I was saying and tell me the things like, what was my hidden operating system? What were the things that I never said, what were the things that were maybe driving me, that I probably like, were holding me back, or like what needed to be addressed, what needed to be reevaluated. I. Took that output that it gave me, and there's a longer prompt for like, that I gave it, but I took that output and it nailed it. I mean, it was like, Yeah, this is you. And it was, it was basically like, Hey, you're holding yourself back. Because the reason you're over optimizing the world is because, like, you just want to be good enough. And I was like, the AI got me, and then I took that info and I I was like, Okay, I want to use some affirmations to maybe address this, right? And so I recorded the affirmations, I put it into a AI binaural beats generator. So this thing like that, like basically uses sound waves to kind of program your brain, and then I put those affirmations in there. And at 10pm at night, every night, there's an automation that starts playing in my house with the reprogramming of whatever the last version of that was, and I do it now every about 90 days, and we kind of check in, like, tap into Hey over the past 90 days, what are you seeing? What? What kind of makes sense? No, like, remember the key thing here is my participation and my acknowledgement that I do align with that, there is still discernment. I'm not asking AI to reprogram or rewire my brain with no like, just haphazardly. There's discernment and also personal buy in, like, I have to acknowledge that, yes, I do feel like this. There's resistance here, and you need to be in that space too. Please don't just ask AI to reprogram your brain. You don't want that to be what you took away from this, but there are ways to, I think, shed a lot of what we carry. And I think that AI can be a really amazing tool to do that.

Erin Geiger: 31:59

Yeah, now that's fascinating. Do you do you have some AI tools that you use regularly? There's so many out there.

Unknown: 32:07

There are, and I think that they have value for each like, type of tool, my daily driver is anthropic Claude. I use Claude a ton second to that. And if I were starting out right now and wasn't building from any place, I more than likely would say, for $25 you can have your personal email address or your regular like, whatever email address. For me, it's Bri it just, you know, and then my website is basically connected to Google Sheets. Every, every possible thing you can think of that's in the Gemini ecosystem, or the Google workspace ecosystem, plus all of the Gemini tools, there's some really phenomenal tools that they have right now for $25 per month that you basically, like you can really fully run and support a business that with just that. And I think that that is what I'm talking about when I say the great equalizer. This is a space where, for $25 you can have, it has like, one of the things that I love right now is called Pompeii, and it basically scrapes your website, identifies your brand, and then builds advertising for you across platforms to be used for advertising. So like you can with like you don't. There's no longer like this like thing of like, what assets do I need, or what testing do I need? It all happens all at once, and that's just one tool that does one like, one thing. There's like photo editing. There's so many other tools that are involved in that. And as AI, kind of like runs forward. There's just so many things that you can do with Google suite that if I were probably building right now a new brand, I would probably test it out all in the Google Suite.

Erin Geiger: 34:12

Yeah, okay, no, that's good to know, and that's accessible, you know, for so many people. That's great. I can only imagine, as you're working, you know, with these with women specifically to the way their decision making process must shift right, like, as they go along, and they're learning these tools and they're building these systems. Like, what have you learned about that, you know, like these women, like, how it would be pretty incredible.

Unknown: 34:39

Yeah, I think it goes from reactive to strategic. And I think that that's the biggest thing, is that I'm watching and like, I do work with men too, but like I'm watching them go from like, Okay, I gotta, I gotta get this done, and I gotta get this done, and then I gotta get this done too. How do I make sure the foundation. One of this is that I'm solving for the always, and then I'm there for the sometimes. So like, I always respond to clients that ask this question with this right? And so it will always respond to that, but sometimes they want to know if I'm free on Tuesdays after four, and so that's where I can hop in and, like, I got I caught it before the always went out. And that's like, a really simple one, but there's just, like, so many versions of that that, like for me, I always send out a proposal to a client with three tiers, and I always tell them why me. I always tell them why now and then what they what their need was. And so my proposal always does that. And now what used to take me, I think, probably like 40 minutes of admin time just creating a proposal is really from okay, it heard my last conversation with the client, which is really just like a light discovery call that goes into my AI, understands all of the context there, builds out the proposal, but then also builds out the invoices for all three tiers and sends it to them with links for each one, so there's zero friction. So my process went from, Hey, just wanted to check in and see if you wanted this tier, this tier, this tier, and then send them invoice. It went to, great. We had a chat. Here you go.

Erin Geiger: 36:35

Yeah, that's great. It takes out so much of that. Like, I love that word friction and the middle, middle person, yeah. And then to, instead of being so much like a ticket taker and like a checklist, like, I got this and got this done, got this done, you can I'm so excited about this. I think we're going to see so many businesses boom in this, this era, like, we haven't seen anything yet. You know, yes, it's yeah, that's going to be wonderful, if people want to connect with you online, what's the best way for them to do that? Just pre k.com,

Unknown: 37:10

or LinkedIn? Okay, perfect.

Erin Geiger: 37:14

Yeah, I always ask people this fun question, because we love music over here has nothing to do with what we just talked about. But if you could listen to only one music artist for the rest of your life, who would it be okay?

Unknown: 37:30

So I want to say right now that I love all music. I am one of those rare people that will listen to anything and everything and get down with it and have such a blast. I have a I have a playlist that is like, it's called Cosmic everything, and it is just literally everything, every type. Okay, it's probably, oh, Beyonce. I'm so sorry. It is probably Oasis

Erin Geiger: 38:02

show Beyonce. Down. Got it?

Unknown: 38:05

I want you to know, on a regular basis, I act like Beyonce and I are just waiting for our past to converge. And so this is an example of that, of me having to apologize to my future best friend about maybe not choosing her in something, but like, once, once, like, our paths converge. Obviously, I'll never, ever say another person, I guess, of

Erin Geiger: 38:28

course not. Yeah, and I need to explain it to her, you know, yeah, she'll get it. She's very understanding. Yeah, she'll totally get it. That's awesome. Well, like I said, before we were recording, we kept chit chatting, and I'm like, Oh, we have to record. I really could talk to you forever, and we're at Austin, so we should get coffee or something. I mean, this has been just incredible. So thank you for the time and for this discussion. I think I know a lot of people are going to walk away with just a lot of kind of ahas of how they can kind of implement AI to make their systems even better, they can be even more productive, and maybe that dream of a goal can actually be real. So thank you. Yeah, I would love

Unknown: 39:10

to support in any way that I can. Thank you so much for having me. Awesome. You.